From where I sit, this rings true. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/08/720-Americans-Leave-Labor-Force-in-October
Here’s a first that may not be the last. Received a call from a gentleman who says that because of the new health insurance law, he has to sign up for health insurance which will start in January. The substantial per month cost will make it impossible for him to keep up with payments on his credit cards, and he wants to file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.
This is the first call like this that I have received, but I expect that it won’t be the last. Of course I’m sure it can be said that he needed the health insurance anyway, and sooner or later he may have been driven to bankruptcy by the medical bills resulting from being uninsured.
Judge Gregory Kishel, Chief Judge of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Minnesota, said last week at the bar association’s Bankruptcy Institute that the bankruptcy court for our state had enough money to make payroll and pay expenses through Monday October 14th or thereabouts. After that he said it was his intention and the intention of all the staff to continue working without pay. As close as I can tell, that must be what they are doing. I just got a routine legal notice from the court in my email about two hours ago. So I know that somebody is there and on the job right now.
I don’t know how long they can go on like that, but the way the judge was talking it sounded as if they were prepared to stick it out for the duration. This has been a good thing from my perspective, because I have been able to continue my work with very little noticeable side effects from the shutdown. So far the only thing that has come up has been that I found a mistake in a proof of claim form which the IRS filed in one of my Chapter 13 cases. When I picked up the phone to call the IRS guy who had prepared the claim form, I got a message that the IRS office was closed because of the government shutdown.
The news I heard this morning before coming to the office was all about possible default on the national debt unless something is done in the next few hours. That would mean, depending on who one listens to, anything between possibly almost nothing at best and a terrible crash and depression like that of 1929 at worst. So in looking for a graphic to go with this post, I have decided to pull out my picture of the fiscal cliff. Hard to know what is really going to happen. Guess I’ll fasten my seat belt and hang on for the ride.
Late yesterday I received the following email from the clerk of bankruptcy court in Minneapolis:“In the event of a government shutdown on October 1, 2013, the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Minnesota will be open and will maintain normal hours and operations for approximately 10 business days. All proceedings and deadlines remain in effect as scheduled and CM/ECF will be available for the electronic filing and review of documents.”
This somewhat surprised me because last week I received the following email from the clerk of federal court’s office in Minneapolis:
"JUDICIARY TO REMAIN OPEN IF GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN
In the event there is a government shutdown beginning October 1, 2013, the United States District Court for the District of Minnesota will continue normal operations Tuesday, October 1, 2013. All cases, including civil and criminal jury trials, will be processed and argued and judgments will be issued and enforced according to usual schedules and priorities. The Clerk’s Office will be fully operational and CM/ECF will continue to be fully functional.” (CM/ECF means Case Management/Electronic Case Files.)
I always thought of the bankruptcy court as being a branch of the federal judiciary, and the earlier of the two emails seemed to be saying that the federal judiciary would not be shut down at all. Guess I misunderstood that. Apparently if the government shutdown continues for more than two weeks, we can expect the bankruptcy court to close.
Either way the news for now is that the Minnesota bankruptcy court is open for business as usual. Filings are being accepted and nothing is being postponed or rescheduled. I expect that this is at least in part because there are very stiff filing fees in bankruptcy court. Right now the filing fee for a Chapter 7 is $306 and the filing fee for a Chapter 13 is $281. Late last week I was charged $30 to file an amended document with the court. I imagine that at any one time there are enough of these fees in the pipeline to keep the place going for a while.
Nevertheless, I invite all my clients to keep an eye out for emails and phone messages from me concerning possible delay or rescheduling of creditor meetings or other events. The word for today is UNCERTAINTY.
This post is for general information purposes only, is not legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship. I am a debt relief agency. I help people file for relief under the federal bankruptcy code.
The title of this blog post is a nearly exact quote of what I just told a client in a Chapter 7 case. In that case over the course of a week I had received a proposed reaffirmation agreement from a credit union for a car loan and another one from a bank for a second mortgage.
I told my client that I thought she should sign the first one but that I was really against her signing the second one. Why such seemingly contradictory advice? Here’s a summary, with names and other identifying specifics omitted, of how I explained it in an email to my client:
There’s a lot of stuff I need to tell you about. None of it is bad news, just routine. Here goes.
A reaffirmation agreement is a contract which, when filed with the bankruptcy court before the discharge date, reinstates a particular debt as if the bankruptcy never took place. I usually advise against signing them, but if you really want to you can do it anyway. I can’t stop you. I don’t like reaffirmation agreements because they usually have language in them that says paying will not be a hardship or problem for you at all. This contradicts everything else we have said in your bankruptcy petition, so I don’t want to have you sign unless there is a really compelling reason.
In the past couple of days I have received proposed reaffirmation agreements from (the bank holding the second mortgage) and from (the credit union holding the car loan). The (agreements are) attached …….
The thing with (the credit union with the car loan) is simple. If you don’t sign it they will probably repossess your car. So my advice as to that one is you better go ahead and sign it. I would call that a compelling reason. The time frame on that is that they have 60 days from the date of our ….. hearing (or meeting of creditors) to get it filed with the court. What I would like to do is sit down with you, go over it and get your signature on all the right signature lines on it when I see you on (the date of the meeting of creditors); and then I’ll take care of sending it back to (the credit union). They won’t do anything nasty if they have it in time to get it filed before the discharge, which is 60 days after the hearing.
As to (the bank holding the third mortgage), my advice is the exact opposite. (Under Minnesota Law )They can’t foreclose as long as you keep making the payments. The law (in Minnesota) concerning cars is way different from the law concerning homes. The worst consequence (In Minnesota) of not reaffirming is that they won’t report your payments to the credit bureaus. You can deal with that problem by keeping good records of your own so you can prove the payments have been made. I just spoke with …….., the person whose name is on the letter that came with the reaffirmation agreement. She says it is likely that (the bank holding the second mortgage) will resume sending monthly statements if they get a letter from me asking for that after the case has been discharged. I will plan on doing that when that time comes. I just put a note to myself on the front of your file to remind myself.
We will no doubt go over all this and discuss it when I see you on …….. – after we’re done with the hearing. There’s a conference room we can probably use at the courthouse, or we can go to the coffee shop on the main floor and talk there.
For now be sure you continue to make your car payments and the payments on both mortgages. These creditors might stop sending monthly statements, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay. If you still want to keep the house and keep the car, you have to make the payments. Every now and then I have a client who gets behind in the payments because the monthly statements stopped. Don’t let that be you.
Creditors like this usually resume sending statements after the discharge, either on their own or in response to a request. After a bankruptcy the statements usually look a little different. Somewhere on the bill they will say something like “We know you don’t owe this any more but we thought we would send this in case you still wanted to pay. This is not an attempt to collect a debt.”
Of course once you reaffirm (with the credit union holding the car loan) you will owe the debt again, so their statements will look like they always did.
I didn’t get into it with this client, but the main reason I hate reaffirmation agreements is that they tend to defeat the whole purpose of the bankruptcy, which is to make debts go away and stay gone. Even with a car loan, where technically the creditor does have a right to repossess just because the debt was not reaffirmed, I try to avoid having my client sign. I make it my practice to call the lender and ask what they will do if my client does not reaffirm but continues to make payments. If a reliable person speaking on behalf of the lender says the lender doesn’t care about the reaffirmation as long as the payments continue to be made, I will tell my client that I think he or she can get along without the reaffirmation and my advice is don’t sign it.
I found myself inserting “in Minnesota” several places above, because I want it to be clear that what I am saying may not apply in another state. While bankruptcy is based on a federal statute that is supposed to apply nation wide, the law incorporates and relies a lot on local laws and local practices. If you are not a resident of Minnesota, please ignore and do not rely on anything said here. You need to consult a lawyer in your own state and your own community about matters like this.
This post is for general information purposes only, is not legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship. Please consult the attorney of your choice concerning the details of your case.
A vacation timeshare can become like a stone around your neck. I would say if you are thinking of getting one, don’t.
A while back I heard from some people I had done a Chapter 7 bankruptcy for in 2006. After hearing nothing for years, out of the blue they were being sued for dues and maintenance fees by a timeshare company. The vacation timeshare was owned at the time of filing the bankruptcy. My clients were asking me the obvious questions: Wasn’t that taken care of when we filed the bankruptcy? How can they be suing us now?
Timeshares are unusual animals and a bankruptcy discharge might not apply to the maintenance fees and ownership association dues which accumulate AFTER the filing of the bankruptcy. Any fees owing from before the filing of the bankruptcy would, however, ordinarily be discharged.
When it comes to fees which accumulate after the filing, the reason they might not be dischargeable is a provision among those that Congress added to the bankruptcy code in 2005, Section 523 (a) (16). If you go here you can see it, just scroll down to (16). This was written mostly to apply to condo and homeowner association fees, but it also says “in a share of a cooperative corporation … for as long as the debtor or the trustee has a legal, equitable, or possessory ownership interest in such unit, such corporation or such lot …”
Some timeshares involve real estate ownership and are a version of a condominium or townhouse setup. Others are cooperatives that own the property and the customer gets a membership in the coop. If you have either of these, you are probably liable for the fees which are accumulated AFTER the bankruptcy filing and continue to accumulate until you are no longer an owner. This is or can be a terrible spot to be in, because many of these places have quit trying to take back the units when they are not being paid for. Most of them are worth little or nothing and can’t be sold. A timeshare owner might be stuck with it indefinitely.
However, if you merely have a contract that gives you a license to use the facilities during a certain time, without any sort of ownership of the property, then liability for the fess would probably not continue after the bankruptcy filing. The bankruptcy should kill it for good. So exactly how the timeshare is set up makes a big difference. I have looked over many stacks of timeshare documents, some of them even in foreign countries. Those papers tend to be very hard to wade through, very hard to figure out. I can read and write, and I even went to law school, but sometimes it can be hard to figure which category a certain timeshare setup belongs in.
If you have a timeshare of any kind and are considering bankruptcy, be sure to tell your lawyer all about it. If you can sell it before filing the case, you probably should. Make your best effort to figure out whether it has a market value and what that is. Provide your lawyer with all the paperwork you may have about it. Make sure it is properly listed and properly described in your bankruptcy petition, and make sure that whoever is running the organization gets notice of your bankruptcy filing.
Then cross your fingers, hold your breath, or better yet – pray a lot. Hope the darn thing goes away.
As with any other financial matter, if you are considering a bankruptcy, don’t make any serious moves without consulting your attorney first.
This post is for general information purposes only and is not legal advice. It does not create an attorney-client relationship. If you need legal advice, please consult the attorney of your choice.
Anyone who has spoken with me over the past few months knows that I have been moaning and complaining about how my landlord was selling out to a developer and the building containing my office is scheduled to be torn down. My beautiful office being destroyed. It saddens me.
As of this morning, however, the moving truck is on its way and I hope to be unpacking at my new location as of late this afternoon. The telephone and internet man is not coming until tomorrow morning, however, so that means that communications via my land line may be disrupted for a while. If you need me the best bet will be to call my cell – 612-735-3797.
The new location will be 11900 Wayzata Blvd. #116E, Minnetonka, MN 55305. This is on the frontage road on the north side of 394 between Hopkins Crossroad and Ridgedale Drive. It’s about a block east of the Staples store. The office complex is called Marsh Run.
As many of you know, my old office had a patio and a back yard – something that an office would not ordinarily have. For an office it was wonderful, and I loved it. I didn’t think I would ever find any kind of an office space even close when it came to an amenity like that. But I have managed to find something that has some similarity in that regard. The new office actually has a deck that overlooks a little pond. As far as the view goes, it is actually better than the old office.
I’m going to be pretty distracted with moving and getting unpacked for the next few days; but taking care of my clients and taking care of business has priority. Everything that needs immediate attention will be taken care of. As I said, if you need me just call my cell: 612-735-3797.
Marital status can make a big difference in a bankruptcy case.
There’s a certain amount of rejoicing in these parts over the events at the Minnesota legislature yesterday which appear to make legalization of gay marriage a certainty in this state probably by next week. I assume that we will have a lot of people who are now legally single soon becoming legally married.
I find myself thinking about all the times a married person has come in to see me about a bankruptcy and wanted to file individually and not jointly. I had to explain that for a married person it is usually best to do it jointly. When a married person insists on filing individually, I will often just refuse to take the case. I’ve actually done quite a few individual filings for married people, but I usually don’t want that case unless there is a really compelling reason to not file jointly. The probability of something going wrong in such a case is multiplied by a factor of I’m not sure what – but by a substantial factor. I don’t consider “but my wife has such a good credit score” to be a compelling reason.
For anybody thinking about both marriage and bankruptcy, you might want to consult with a competent lawyer concerning whether it would be best to file the bankruptcy before or after the wedding.
In bankruptcy, either Chapter 7 or 13, there is a counseling requirement – one course that must be taken before the case is filed and another that must be taken before the case can be discharged.
One of the things that keeps me awake at night is the possibility that one of my clients might miss the deadline for the second course and have their discharge refused as a result. I ask my clients to please have the second course done by the time of the meeting of creditors, which is about a month after filing.
If the second course is not done by then, I keep track of that fact by moving the file to my “drawer of shame.” It has a big label on it in red letters. My goal then is to bug those clients until the second course is done. It would be a terrible shame to have a case that is otherwise going well fail because of that. One time it was actually down to the last 24 hours before my client got it done. That one had me actually calling my client’s mother.
I’ve never had a case where a client has actually missed the deadline. The lawyers I know who have clients that have missed it tell me that every one of them blames the lawyer, even though the lawyer sent all kinds of reminders.