{"id":54,"date":"2008-04-04T02:18:00","date_gmt":"2008-04-04T02:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/?p=54"},"modified":"2008-04-04T02:18:00","modified_gmt":"2008-04-04T02:18:00","slug":"credit-card-cash-advances-to-pay-for-bankruptcy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/credit-card-cash-advances-to-pay-for-bankruptcy\/","title":{"rendered":"CREDIT CARD CASH ADVANCES TO PAY FOR BANKRUPTCY"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I just got off the phone with a gentleman who is in extreme debt, lives with his parents, and is essentially unemployed. He works part time odd jobs from time to time. His credit is apparently still good, since he is borrowing from one card to pay for another, even though his debt exceeds $50,000. I told him that he certainly qualifies for a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy, and probably needs one; but with no income and no assets, what was his plan to pay for the bankruptcy?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have been told that I can do that with cash advances,&#8221; said he without hesitation. I questioned him more trying to determine exactly who had said that or where he got that idea. He side-stepped and never really answered my questions. I explained that if a lawyer had told him that, it was a violation of every code of ethics I ever heard of. It would also be fraud if not theft, and if it preceded the actual filing of a <span class=\"blsp-spelling-corrected\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_0\">bankruptcy<\/span>, it would also be bankruptcy fraud. Bankruptcy fraud, I explained, is a federal felony. It is investigated by the FBI. I would like to stay as far away from that sort of thing as possible.<\/p>\n<p>I would not have thought much of this call, and would not find it worthy of mentioning, except that this was the second such discussion I have had in the last ten days or so. Since it has now come up twice, I am wondering if someone on a web site, blog or other media source has been either promoting or at least discussing the idea.<\/p>\n<p>Let me see if I can spell something out. If a creditor can show that a debt was incurred at a time that the debtor intends to not pay it, but intends instead to run it through a <span class=\"blsp-spelling-corrected\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_1\">bankruptcy<\/span>, that is bankruptcy fraud. The person who does that will at least be subject to an objection to the discharge brought by the creditor, and at worst possibly be subject to criminal charges. If the debt is more than $600 or so, and it is incurred within 90 days before filing, it will be presumed to be for luxury goods &#8211; which also makes the debt <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_2\">nondischargeable<\/span> if the creditor objects. Even if all the specific rules for the bankruptcy filing are satisfied, there is still a possibility that the case won&#8217;t pass the &#8220;totality of the circumstances&#8221; test. Essentially it&#8217;s a smell test. If it doesn&#8217;t smell right, the court can dismiss it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I just got off the phone with a gentleman who is in extreme debt, lives with his parents, and is essentially unemployed. He works part time odd jobs from time to time. 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