{"id":477,"date":"2012-12-13T20:43:42","date_gmt":"2012-12-13T20:43:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/?p=477"},"modified":"2022-11-11T20:44:02","modified_gmt":"2022-11-11T20:44:02","slug":"what-not-to-do-in-the-event-of-going-over-the-fiscal-cliff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/what-not-to-do-in-the-event-of-going-over-the-fiscal-cliff\/","title":{"rendered":"What NOT to do while going Over the Fiscal Cliff"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright\" id=\"WhatNOTtodo\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/colorado-2011-1-1181.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/colorado-2011-1-1181-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Cliff near Pike's Peak.  Looks like a fiscal cliff if I ever saw one.\" class=\"wp-image-451\" title=\"Looks a lot like the proverbial fiscal cliff\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/colorado-2011-1-1181-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/colorado-2011-1-1181-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Watch out for the temptation to under withhold .<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Most people I talk to have not heard of the &#8220;fiscal cliff.&#8221;&nbsp; Those who have believe it will not affect them.&nbsp; This includes&nbsp;a husband and wife&nbsp;I met with yesterday.&nbsp; But when I ran the numbers for&nbsp;them, based on a <a title=\"2013 Federal Income Tax Brackets And Marginal Rates\" href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/moneybuilder\/2012\/11\/01\/2013-federal-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">November 1st article in Forbes<\/a>, I found that between&nbsp;the two of them&nbsp;their paycheck withholding should go up by about $438 per month.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is,&nbsp;the net take home pay for the two of them together will&nbsp;be <strong>$438&nbsp;less<\/strong> <strong>per month<\/strong> starting January 2, 2012.&nbsp; That is just a few days from now.&nbsp;&nbsp;When I tried to warn them and suggested that they should be thinking about how they would deal with this, they blew me off.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are absolutely in denial about the prospect that this could ever happen.&nbsp;&nbsp;If we go over the fiscal cliff as scheduled, &nbsp;this should come as a heck of a shock.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My calculations assume, of course, that no steps will be taken to reduce the impact of the fiscal cliff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From where I sit it looks like a majority of people are living right on the&nbsp;edge.&nbsp; For them a drop in take home pay like&nbsp;this will mean they&nbsp;no longer have the funds to pay their credit card debt.&nbsp; Often when people are in&nbsp;such a situation, they go to their employer and increase the number of exemptions they are claiming for withholding purposes on&nbsp;their paychecks.&nbsp; They claim more withholding exemptions than they should.&nbsp; Some increase the number of exemptions to the point that no taxes are being withheld at all, and for them all that is withheld is social security and medicare.&nbsp; This increases their take home pay, but&nbsp;it is at the cost of&nbsp;not having enough taken out to cover&nbsp;state and federal tax liability.&nbsp; The income which should&nbsp;have been&nbsp;withheld for taxes is&nbsp;then used to&nbsp;make payments on credit card debt.&nbsp;&nbsp;Often this is still not enough to get that credit card debt under control.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When it comes time to file their tax return, they find that&nbsp;they owe a tax debt which is too large for them to pay.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now 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Sometimes that seems like a long time, and other days I feel as if I just started. These days my practice is devoted entirely to counseling folks concerning their financial problems and representing them in Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy. One thing I don't do is credit repair. When asked about matters concerning credit scores, I like to say \"I'm a very good source of unreliable information about that.\" What I mean is that I hear a lot about it from my clients who often report back to me how they are doing after their bankruptcy is completed, sometimes even years later; but having heard some stories from a few people doesn't qualify me to give any advice. I spend a lot of time with my clients. I want to be sure we get it right. There are civil and criminal penalties for concealing or providing incorrect information in a bankruptcy care, and my goal is to keep myself and my clients as far away from problems like that as possible. You can find me in MInnetonka near I-394 and Hopkins crossroad. It's ten or fifteen minutes from downtown Minneapolis. You can see parts of Plymouth, Minnesota, Golden Valley, Minnesota and St. Louis Park, Minnesota from the high ground in front of my building. 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