{"id":150,"date":"2011-11-14T19:37:00","date_gmt":"2011-11-14T19:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/?p=150"},"modified":"2012-07-24T17:21:17","modified_gmt":"2012-07-24T17:21:17","slug":"mentioned-in-lien-strip-article-not-exactly-a-claim-to-fame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/mentioned-in-lien-strip-article-not-exactly-a-claim-to-fame\/","title":{"rendered":"Mentioned in Lien Strip article &#8211; Not exactly a Claim to Fame"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Seems I was quoted in an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.twincities.com\/ci_19329793?IADID=Search-www.twincities.com-www.twincities.com\">article in yesterday&#8217;s Sunday Pioneer Press<\/a>.  The topic was a process called lien stripping.  It involves taking a second mortgage in a Chapter 13 case and throwing it in with the unsecured debts.  The second mortgage gets treated as if it were a big credit card instead of a mortgage.  At least in theory, at the end of the Chapter 13 payment plan, the mortgage is then just gone.  This can only be done in a case where the value of the homestead is less than the balance owing on the first mortgage.  The bankruptcy court is asked to treat that second mortgage as if it was unsecured, because as a practical matter there is no security.<\/p>\n<p>I say &#8220;in theory&#8221; in the above paragraph because the situation is that this process is so new &#8211; at least here in Minnesota &#8211; that nobody knows quite for sure exactly how it should be done.  That is still being worked out.  For one thing, the case (Fisette) which says we can do it is being appealed.  I don&#8217;t expect it to be overturned, but that could happen.  For another thing, nobody knows for sure how to clear the title of the second mortgage.  The mortgage can be gone as a matter of bankruptcy law, but still be a problem as a matter of real estate law.  Real estate law is as if it&#8217;s on a different planet than bankruptcy law &#8211; maybe in a different solar system.  There&#8217;s a need for adjustments between the two legal systems before lien stripping can be expected to go smoothly.  While those adjustments might be in process, they are certainly not completed at this time.<\/p>\n<p>The whole thing is a bit too up in the air for me, and so far I have been reluctant to try doing any of this.  I have been explaining it as a possible option, and I have been referring people who are interested to some of the lawyers who have been doing them &#8211; such as Mr. Theisen and Mr. Andresen.  People like them should be given credit for having the gumption to push for this, particularly Craig Andresen who is the one who has the case on appeal.<\/p>\n<p>This is a developing area and I&#8217;m sure to have more to say about it later.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Seems I was quoted in an article in yesterday&#8217;s Sunday Pioneer Press. The topic was a process called lien stripping. It involves taking a second mortgage in a Chapter 13 case and throwing it in with the unsecured debts. 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