{"id":145,"date":"2011-07-16T19:44:00","date_gmt":"2011-07-16T19:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/?p=145"},"modified":"2011-07-16T19:44:00","modified_gmt":"2011-07-16T19:44:00","slug":"two-pro-se-cases-not-heard-last-thursday","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mn-bankruptcy.com\/blog\/two-pro-se-cases-not-heard-last-thursday\/","title":{"rendered":"Two pro se cases not heard last Thursday"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was at the Federal Courthouse in Minneapolis last Thursday for a meeting of creditors.  The room was full and I was planning for a long wait with my client. <\/p>\n<p>To my surprise the trustee &#8211; who is the person who runs such proceedings &#8211; stood up and asked two apparently married couples to leave.  These individuals were there without a lawyer and were obviously pro se &#8211; or in other words representing themselves.  From the words that were exchanged it sounded as if they had gone to some sort of a non-lawyer document preparation service. <\/p>\n<p>Apparently whoever they had gone to had neglected to tell them that they were supposed to provide a copy of their most recent tax return to the trustee well in advance of the date of the meeting of creditors. <\/p>\n<p>I expect that those parties will be allowed to provide their tax returns to the trustee and reschedule their meeting of creditors &#8211; which those who know me know I often call the &#8220;hearing,&#8221; because that word is a good one to describe what happens.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder what else might be wrong with those bankruptcy filings. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been concerned for some time that some of these document preparation outfits are dangerous.  If you search this blog I believe you&#8217;ll find something from a while back where I was carrying on about such a service located in India which had contacted me and wanted to essentially use my name.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was at the Federal Courthouse in Minneapolis last Thursday for a meeting of creditors. The room was full and I was planning for a long wait with my client. 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